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1月6日,特朗普前白宫法律顾问帕特·西波尔隆被委员会传唤

2022-06-30 11:20  -ABC   - 

唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)的前白宫顾问帕特·西波尔隆(Pat Cipollone)周三被传唤,要求众议院1月6日的委员会作证。

“特别委员会的调查显示,有证据表明,西波尔隆先生在1月6日和此前几天多次对特朗普总统的活动提出法律和其他方面的担忧,”该委员会的主席和副主席、密西西比州民主党人本尼·汤普森和怀俄明州共和党人利兹·切尼在一份声明中说。

西波尔隆和前白宫副法律顾问帕特·菲尔宾会见委员会调查人员参加四月份的非正式面试。

据ABC新闻此前报道,Cipollone一直在考虑在某些限制下与该委员会进行某种形式的合作。

新的传票是在Cipollone被反复提及的一天后发出的在卡西迪·哈钦森的证词中在2021年1月6日袭击国会大厦之前和期间,他是特朗普的参谋长马克·梅多斯的高级助手。

哈钦森在周二的听证会上告诉委员会,1月6日上午,奇波洛内坚持认为,特朗普当天早些时候在白宫附近的椭圆广场向支持者发表讲话后,不应陪同他的支持者前往国会大厦。

“如果我们发起那场运动,我们将会被指控犯下任何可以想象到的罪行,”她回忆起当时西波洛内告诉她的话。

一位熟悉Cipollone审议的律师在回应委员会的声明时告诉ABC新闻:“当然,在这位前白宫律师甚至可以在委员会面前考虑转录的证词之前,传票是必要的。”

“既然传票已经发出,它将被评估为可能是适当的特权问题,”律师说。

该委员会在一封写给Cipollone的信中连同他的传票一起写道,他们“继续获得证据,而你是唯一有资格作证的人;但是,您拒绝与我们进一步合作。”

Cipollone是1月6日与时任总统特朗普一起在白宫西翼的少数几个助手之一。美国广播公司新闻(ABC News)报道称,在国会大厦遇袭后的几天里,他建议特朗普,特朗普可能会因其鼓励支持者在国会大厦游行的角色而面临民事责任。

有消息称,有许多情况可能会使西波洛内最终的出庭变得复杂,包括谁会对他进行讯问以及讯问多长时间的问题;是否存在任何持续的特权问题;以及特朗普是否会认可他的出现。

了解审议情况的消息人士称,奇波洛内还明确表示,他的证词将仅限于前司法部高级官员杰弗里·克拉克(Jeffrey Clark)利用DOJ的权力进一步推动特朗普推翻2020年总统竞选的努力。

Cipollone和他的副手Philbin都参加了2021年1月3日在椭圆形办公室举行的会议,特朗普坚持用克拉克取代当时的代理司法部长杰弗里·罗森,克拉克是特朗普的忠诚者,曾发誓要利用司法部调查选举。

根据参议院委员会去年发布的一份报告,奇波洛内和菲尔宾向特朗普明确表示,如果克拉克就职,他们将辞职。该报告详细列举了特朗普及其盟友试图利用DOJ推翻选举的例子。

Former Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone subpoenaed by Jan. 6 committee

Donald Trump's former White House counsel Pat Cipollone was subpoenaed Wednesday for a deposition by the House's Jan. 6 committee.

"The Select Committee's investigation has revealed evidence that Mr. Cipollone repeatedly raised legal and other concerns about President Trump's activities on January 6th and in the days that preceded," the committee's chair and vice-chair, Mississippi Democrat Bennie Thompson and Wyoming Republican Liz Cheney, said in a statement.

Cipollone and former deputy White House counsel Pat Philbinmet with committee investigatorsfor an informal interview in April.

Cipollone had been considering some form of cooperation with the committee, under certain restrictions, ABC News previously reported.

The new subpoena comes one day after Cipollone was repeatedly mentionedduring the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson, who was a top aide to Trump's chief of staff Mark Meadows before and during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.

Hutchinson told the committee during a Tuesday hearing that on the morning of Jan. 6, Cipollone was adamant that Trump shouldn't accompany his supporters to the Capitol after addressing them at the Ellipse near the White House earlier that day.

"We're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen," she recalled Cipollone telling her at the time.

A lawyer familiar with Cipollone's deliberations told ABC News in response to the committee's announcement: "Of course a subpoena was necessary before the former White House counsel could even consider transcribed testimony before the committee."

"Now that a subpoena has been issued, it'll be evaluated as to matters of privilege that might be appropriate," the lawyer said.

The committee had written in a letter to Cipollone along with his subpoena that they "continued to obtain evidence about which you are uniquely positioned to testify; however, you have declined to cooperate with us further."

Cipollone was one of the few aides who was with then-President Trump in the West Wing on Jan. 6. ABC News has reported that in the days following the attack on the Capitol, he advised Trump that Trump could potentially face civil liability in connection with his role encouraging supporters to march on the Capitol.

Sources have said there would be a number of circumstances that could serve to complicate any eventual appearance by Cipollone -- including the issue of who questions him and for how long; whether there are any ongoing issues of privilege; and whether Trump would approve of his appearance.

Cipollone also made clear that his testimony would be restricted to the effort undertaken by former top Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark to use the powers of the DOJ to further Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential race, sources familiar with the deliberations have said.

Both Cipollone and Philbin, his deputy, were part of a Jan. 3, 2021, Oval Office meeting where Trump insisted on replacing then-acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen with Clark, a Trump loyalist who had vowed to use the Department of Justice to investigate the election.

Cipollone and Philbin made it clear to Trump that they would resign if Clark were installed, according to a Senate committee report released last year that detailed instances where Trump and his allies sought to use the DOJ to overturn the election.

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