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众议员希夫说,DOJ应该调查川普在选举阴谋中可能犯下的罪行

2022-06-13 07:33  -ABC   - 

司法部应该调查众议院1月6日特别委员会对前总统唐纳德·特朗普及其盟友提出的“任何犯罪活动指控”在本月的公开听证会上加利福尼亚州民主党众议员亚当·希夫周日在“本周”节目中说

“我没有看到司法部正在调查的某些行动,这些不同努力路线的一部分,”该委员会成员兼众议院情报委员会主席希夫在接受《本周》联合主持人、美国广播公司首席全球事务记者玛莎·拉达茨(Martha Raddatz)采访时说。

“一旦司法部积累了证据,它需要决定是否能够向陪审团证明总统或其他任何人的罪行,”他说。

“但如果有可信的证据,就需要对它们进行调查,我认为确实有。”

周四,1月6日的委员会举行了七场新的公开听证会中的第一场,以展开对成员们所称的特朗普“未遂政变”的近一年的调查——这是一场挑战和推翻2020年总统选举结果的多方面努力,最终导致2021年1月6日致命的国会大厦骚乱,当时国会成员聚集在一起证明特朗普的失败。

法宝一直否认有不当行为并声称1月6日的委员会是出于政治动机。

“非常有力的证据表明,唐纳德·特朗普在大选前就开始撒这个‘弥天大谎’...这个谎言在选举后继续存在,最终导致这群暴徒聚集并攻击国会大厦,”希夫周日告诉Raddatz。“有更多的证词证明了这一点。”

希夫说,探索特朗普的轨道与“骄傲的男孩”等极端主义团体之间的联系一直是该委员会调查的“明确重点”,但他拒绝透露他们工作的更多细节。

拉达茨在采访中向他施压:“我再问你一次:特朗普轨道上的人和骄傲的男孩、誓言守卫者之间有实际的对话吗?”

“我不想预先确定或预先判断我们将向您展示的内容的强度。...我不想谈论证据的细节。你只能等到我们在听证会上谈到这一点,”希夫说。

他说,该委员会还将披露一些共和党议员涉嫌寻求特朗普赦免他们参与挑战选举的细节。

共和党众议员斯科特·佩里。称怀俄明州众议员利兹·切尼声称他寻求特朗普的赦免是“没有灵魂的谎言”。

“我们将出示证据,证明国会议员在寻求赦免。对我来说,我认为这是罪恶感最令人信服的证据,”希夫说。“如果议员们认为他们参与推翻选举的阴谋是适当的,他们为什么要这样做呢?”

周一,该委员会将举行其最近一次听证会的第二次听证会,他们表示,听证会将重点关注特朗普和他的助手知道他已经输掉了选举,但仍继续推动未经证实的大规模选举欺诈指控的证据。

DOJ should investigate Trump for possible crimes in election plot, Rep. Schiff says

The Department of Justice should investigate "any allegation of criminal activity" against former President Donald Trump and his allies raised by the House's Jan. 6 select committeein its public hearings this month, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., said Sunday on "This Week."

"There are certain actions, parts of these different lines of effort to overturn the [2020] election, that I don't see evidence the Justice Department is investigating," Schiff, a member of the committee and chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said in an interview with "This Week" co-anchor and ABC Chief Global Affairs Correspondent Martha Raddatz.

"Once the evidence is accumulated by the Justice Department, it needs to make a decision about whether it can prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt the president's guilt or anyone else's," he said.

"But they need to be investigated if there's credible evidence, which I think there is."

On Thursday the Jan. 6 committee held the first of seven new public hearings to lay out its nearly year-long investigation into what members described as Trump's "attempted coup" -- a multifaceted effort to challenge and overturn the 2020 presidential election results that culminated in the deadly Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021, as members of Congress had gathered to certify Trump's defeat.

Trumphas long denied wrongdoingand contends the Jan. 6 committee is politically motivated.

"The evidence is very powerful that Donald Trump began telling this 'big lie' before the election ... that lie continued after the election and ultimately led to this mob assembling and attacking the Capitol," Schiff told Raddatz on Sunday. "There's a lot more testimony where that came from."

Schiff said that exploring the connections between Trump's orbit and extremist groups like the Proud Boys has been a "clear focus" of the committee's investigation, but he declined to be more specific about their work.

Raddatz pressed him in the interview: "Let me ask you again: Is there an actual conversation between people in Trump's orbit and Proud Boys, Oath Keepers?"

"I don’t want to predetermine or prejudge the strength of what we’ll show you. ... I don’t want to get into the specifics of the evidence. You’ll just have to wait until we get to that point in our hearings," Schiff said.

The committee will also reveal details about alleged efforts from some Republican lawmakers to seek pardons from Trump for their involvement in the push to challenge the election, he said.

Rep. Scott Perry, R-Pa., called Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney's claim that he sought a pardon from Trump a "soulless lie."

"We will show evidence that we have that members of Congress were seeking pardons. To me I think that is the most compelling evidence of a consciousness of guilt," Schiff said. "Why would members to that if they felt that their involvement in this plot to overturn the election was somehow appropriate?"

On Monday, the committee will hold the second in its latest hearings, which they say will focus on evidence that Trump and his aides knew he had lost the election but still continued to push unsubstantiated claims of widespread election fraud.

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