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特朗普的机密文件“应该关系到每一个美国人”

2022-09-08 09:22  -ABC   - 

希拉里·克林顿表达了她对在前总统处查获的机密文件的关注唐纳德·特朗普上个月,他在Mar-a-Lago庄园与人分享了“每个美国人”都应该关注的警告。

周三,这位前国务卿和女儿切尔西·克林顿一起参加了《观点》节目,分享了他们的新纪录片《勇敢》,该片于周五在Apple TV+首播。在深入探讨他们的新节目之前,他们加入了这个国家最热门的话题之一:联邦调查局对特朗普Mar-a-Lago住宅的搜查以及在住所发现的文件。这部新节目突出了美国一些最大的女英雄。

联邦调查局于8月8日对特朗普的Mar-a-Lago住宅执行了搜查令。根据未密封的库存清单周五,联邦法官裁定,特工们收集了超过11,000份没有分类标记的文件或照片,这些文件或照片被描述为美国政府的财产。

在搜查过程中找到的数百份文件被认为是机密、秘密和绝密文件,还有40多个空文件夹,上面要么贴着“分类”横幅,要么贴着“归还给参谋秘书/军事助理”的标签。

美国广播公司新闻此前报道称,联邦调查局仍然担心即使在搜查Mar-a-Lago后,机密记录仍可能丢失。

在《观点》节目中。希拉里·克林顿称从Mar-a-Lago没收的文件“应该认真对待”

“这应该关系到每一个美国人,因为这些文件和被标记的空文件夹表明,有真正重要的秘密信息,对我们国家的国防和安全至关重要,”她说。

克林顿接着解释了在她2009年至2013年担任前总统巴拉克·奥巴马(Barack Obama)的国务卿期间,机密文件是如何与她安全共享的。

“一个军事信使会来到我的办公室。这将是一个紧急情况。她解释说:“我们没有时间去白宫,在SCIF召开紧急会议。“通常一个男人——我记得总是一个男人——走进来,手腕上锁着一个公文包。”SCIF是美国政府批准的安全设施,政府官员可以在这里查看敏感信息。

“他会走进我的办公室,对我说,‘部长,你必须马上看看这个。’他会打开公文包;他会站在那里;“他会给我这份文件,里面有一些非常微妙、非常重要的秘密信息,”她继续说道。我会读它,然后我会签名说我读了它。它会回到附在他手腕上的锁着的盒子里,然后他会离开。"

知道了这一点,克林顿对如何移动敏感文件感到困惑。“我不明白(特朗普)是如何被允许带他们去的,即使是去住所,更不用说去佛罗里达州的一个乡村俱乐部了,”她说。

克林顿接着说,美国并不清楚被扣押文件中的内容,但在日间脱口秀节目中提醒观众,“人们真的是为了获取我们的政府信息而死的。他们进了监狱。他们会被流放。”

“我希望每个人都认真对待这个想法,”她补充道。

周一,美国地区法官艾琳·坎农(Aileen Cannon)批准了特朗普法律团队的请求任命一个特别的主人查看联邦调查局在Mar-a-Lago搜查中缴获的文件。法官的命令中止了司法部在刑事调查中对所有文件的审查。

当共同主持人乔·贝哈问希拉里,特朗普是否应该因为在他的Mar-a-Lago庄园发现的文件而被起诉时,她说她不想“预先判断”

“我已经预先判断错误。我不会评判别人,所以我认为关键是事实和证据是什么,联邦调查局和情报部门对这些文件了解多少,它们是如何出现在那里的,还有谁看到了它们,”克林顿回应道。

她继续解释公众应该如何对调查有“两种想法”。“没有人可以凌驾于法律和民主法治之上...必须成为我们的标准。”

公众“不应该急于下判断,”克林顿继续说,但“我们应该关注它,我们应该遵循事实和证据。”

切尔西·克林顿也对南卡罗来纳州表示支持政府立法机关林赛·格雷厄姆声称如果特朗普因总统记录处理不当而被起诉,政治暴力将会爆发。

“我非常担心我们的国家,”她说。“参议员格雷厄姆和其他人...应该对他们的平台更加了解,更加负责。”

“在1月6日国会大厦的白人民族主义者起义之后,我们知道有些人认为暴力是一种可以接受的工具,即使在我们的民主国家,即使在21世纪的美利坚合众国,”她继续说道。

切尔西·克林顿说:“我非常担心,我对参议员非常失望。”。"我希望其他人不要效仿他。"

Hillary Clinton: Trump’s classified Mar-a-Lago docs 'should concern every American'

Hillary Clintonexpressed her concern over the classified documents seized at former PresidentDonald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate last month, sharing a warning that "every American" should be concerned.

PHOTO: Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Chelsea Clinton join

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Chelsea Clinton join "The View" on Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2022.

ABC/Lorenzo Bevilaqua

On Wednesday, the former secretary of state joined "The View" alongside daughter Chelsea Clinton to share about their new docuseries, "Gutsy" on Apple TV+ premiering on Friday. Before delving into their new show, which highlights some of America's biggest heroines, they weighed in on one of the nation's hottest topics: the FBI's search of Trump's Mar-a-Lago home and the documents found at the residence.

The FBI executed a search warrant for Trump's Mar-a-Lago home on August 8. According to theinventory list unsealedFriday by a federal judge, agents gathered more than 11,000 documents or photographs without classification markings that were described as property of the U.S. government.

Hundreds of the documents retrieved during the search were considered confidential, secret and top-secret documents, as well as more than 40 empty folders with either "CLASSIFIED" banners on them or labeled "Return to Staff Secretary/Military Aide."

ABC News previously reported that the FBI remains concerned about classified records that could still be missing even after their search of Mar-a-Lago.

On "The View,"Hillary Clintonsaid the seized documents from Mar-a-Lago "should be taken really seriously."

"It should concern every American, because those documents and the empty folders as they were marked suggest that there was really important secret information that is essential to our country's defense and security," she said.

Clinton went on to explain how classified documents were securely shared with her during her time as secretary of state under former President Barack Obama from 2009 to 2013.

"A military courier would come into my office. It would be an emergency. There wouldn't be time to get to the White House and have an emergency meeting in a SCIF," she explained. "Usually a man -- it was always a man, I remember -- walked in, he would have a briefcase locked to his wrist." A SCIF is a U.S. government–approved secure facility where sensitive information can be looked over by government officials.

"He would come into my office and he would say, 'You have to look at this immediately, secretary.' He would unlock the briefcase; he would stand there; he would give me this document that had really delicate, secret information about something of importance," she continued. "I would read it, then I would sign that I read it. It would go back into the locked box attached to his wrist and off he would go."

With that knowledge, Clinton was left puzzled as to how sensitive documents could be moved at all. "I don't understand how [Trump] was permitted to take them, even to the residence, let alone to a country club in Florida," she said.

Clinton went on to say that the country doesn't have a clear understanding of what was in the seized documents, but reminded viewers on the daytime talk show that "people literally die to get our government information. They go to prison. They get exiled."

"The idea that this would have been done, I hope everybody takes really seriously," she added.

On Monday, U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon granted a request from Trump's legal team toappoint a special masterto review documents seized in the FBI's Mar-a-Lago search. The judge's order halts all reviews of the documents by the Justice Department in its criminal investigation.

When co-host Joy Behar asked Clinton if Trump should be indicted over the documents found in his Mar-a-Lago estate, she said that she didn't want to "prejudge."

"I have been prejudged wrongly enough. I'm not going to judge somebody else, and so I think the key is what the facts and the evidence are, what the FBI and the intelligence community learn about these documents, how they ended up there, who else saw them," Clinton responded.

She went on to explain how the public should have "two minds" about the investigation. "No one is above the law, and the rule of law in a democracy ... has to be our standard."

The public "should not rush to judgment," Clinton continued, but "we should be concerned about it, and we should follow the facts and the evidence."

Chelsea Clinton also weighed in on South CarolinaSen.Lindsey Grahamclaiming political violence would break out if Trump were to be indicted over mishandling of presidential records.

"I'm very worried about our country," she said. "Sen. Graham and others ... should know better and should be more responsible with their platforms."

"After the white nationalist insurrection at the Capitol on January 6, we know that there are people who believe that violence is an acceptable tool, even in our democracy, even in the 21st century in the United States of America," she continued.

"I'm very concerned and I'm very disappointed in the senator," Chelsea Clinton said. "I hope that others do not follow his lead."

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