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苏西·怀尔斯似乎在《名利场》中批评邦迪、万斯和特朗普

2025-12-17 13:47 -ABC  -  浏览量:155083

  在接受《名利场》采访时,白宫办公厅主任苏西·怀尔斯(Susie Wiles)公开了唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)总统及其内阁在特朗普第二任期第一年的情况。

  怀尔斯参加了11场实时采访。这些采访的两个部分于周二发表。

  在这些邮件中,怀尔斯毫无保留地描述了政府中的高层人物,包括特朗普,她说特朗普有“酒鬼的性格”。

  怀尔斯说,多次表示自己不喝酒的特朗普说,他“认为没有什么是他做不到的。什么都没有,零,什么都没有。”

  特朗普在接受《纽约邮报》独家采访时表示,怀尔斯告诉《名利场》他有“酒鬼的人格”是“正确的”。

  “关于我自己,我已经说过很多次了。我很幸运我不喝酒。如果我说了,我也能说得很好,因为我已经说过了——那个词怎么说来着?非占有欲-占有欲和上瘾型人格。哦,我已经说过很多次了,很多次了,”特朗普告诉《纽约邮报》。

  当被问及是否对怀尔斯充满信心时,总统说,“哦,她棒极了。”

  在《名利场》中,怀尔斯还称副总统JD Vance是“十年来的阴谋论者”,白宫管理和预算办公室主任Russell Vought是“右翼绝对狂热者”。她说,亿万富翁埃隆·马斯克是“一只古怪的鸭子,我认为天才都是如此”,而且“公开承认使用氯胺酮”

  怀尔斯还谈到了司法部长帕姆·邦迪(Pam Bondi)对杰弗里·爱泼斯坦(Jeffrey Epstein)文件的处理,马斯克对联邦政府机构和项目的大幅削减,特朗普关税计划的混乱推出,政府对委内瑞拉的目标等。

  怀尔斯在回应《名利场》的文章时说,这是“对我和历史上最优秀的总统、白宫工作人员和内阁的不诚实的诬陷”

  怀尔斯在x上写道:“事实是,特朗普白宫在11个月内取得的成就超过了任何一位总统在8年内取得的成就,这要归功于特朗普总统无与伦比的领导力和远见,我很荣幸为他工作了十年的大部分时间。”

  “重要的背景被忽略了,我和其他人关于团队和总统的许多话被遗漏了。我想,在读完之后,这样做是为了描绘一个关于总统和我们团队的极其混乱和负面的叙述,”怀尔斯补充道。

  ABC新闻联系了《名利场》的母公司康泰纳仕(Condé Nast)就怀尔斯的批评发表评论。

  白宫新闻秘书卡罗琳·莱维特(Karoline Leavitt)首先在社交媒体上为怀尔斯辩护,然后在白宫外与记者交谈。她称《名利场》的报道“不真诚”,并表示存在“遗漏偏见”,排除了怀尔斯和政府其他人的背景和评论。

  “我要说的是,关于我们的办公厅主任,正如你不仅从我自己,而且从整个内阁看到的那样,在国会山甚至不在这座大楼工作的人的支持下,苏西·怀尔斯对特朗普总统是多么不可思议。他之所以能够取得如此大的成就,是因为他的领导能力和坚韧不拔的精神,也是因为白宫办公厅主任怀尔斯的领导能力和她实现自己议程的能力,”莱维特说。

  邦迪在x上的社交媒体帖子中支持怀尔斯。司法部长没有回应怀尔斯在帖子中对她处理爱泼斯坦文件的评论。

  “我亲爱的朋友(苏茜·怀尔斯)每天都在为推进特朗普总统的议程而奋斗——她以优雅、忠诚和历史性的效力这样做了。任何分裂本届政府的企图都将失败。任何破坏和淡化特朗普总统巨大成就的企图都将失败。我们是一家人。

  我们团结一致,”邦迪写道。

  万斯周二在宾夕法尼亚州的一次活动中说,他没有读过《名利场》的文章,但回应了怀尔斯“过去十年来一直是阴谋论者”的说法。怀尔斯在讨论爱泼斯坦的文件时对万斯作了评论。

  “我还没看那篇文章。我当然听说过这件事。但阴谋论者,有时我是阴谋论者,但我只相信真实的阴谋论,”万斯告诉记者。

  “顺便说一句,苏西和我已经私下和公开就此开玩笑很久了,”他补充道。

  马斯克尚未公开回应《名利场》的文章。

  以下是怀尔斯接受《名利场》采访时的一些值得注意的交流。

  怀尔斯说邦迪关于爱泼斯坦的争论完全没有影响

  怀尔斯说,她低估了围绕爱泼斯坦文件的争议。她讨论了2月份邦迪交给保守派社交媒体影响者一本与爱泼斯坦有关的文件,但活页夹包含旧信息的那一刻。

  “我认为她完全忽视了这一点,即这是一个非常有针对性的关注此事的群体,”怀尔斯这样评价邦迪。

  “首先,她给了他们充满虚无的活页夹。然后她说证人名单,或者说客户名单,在她桌子上。没有客户名单,而且肯定不在她的桌子上,”怀尔斯说。

  怀尔斯说,她阅读了她所谓的“爱泼斯坦文件”,特朗普就在其中。

  “[特朗普]在档案里。我们知道他在档案里。他没有在档案中做任何可怕的事情,”她说。

  怀尔斯还说,特朗普“在(爱泼斯坦的)飞机上……他在名单上。他们,你知道,有点年轻,单身,无论什么-我知道这是一个过时的词,但有点年轻,单身花花公子在一起。"

  《名利场》指出,特朗普声称,在没有证据的情况下,比尔·克林顿访问了爱泼斯坦臭名昭著的私人岛屿小圣詹姆斯,“据说有28次。”

  怀尔斯告诉该杂志,“没有证据”表明这些访问确实发生了。

  对特朗普的委内瑞拉战略,关税推出,赦免和更多的诡计

  关于特朗普总统对委内瑞拉的战略,怀尔斯告诉《名利场》:“他想继续炸船,直到(尼古拉斯)马杜罗哭叔叔。比我聪明得多的人会说他会的。”

  关于总统的全球关税政策,这是他的经济议程的核心,怀尔斯她说,她试图让特朗普等到他的团队更加团结时再公布这些照片,但他最终还是去了。

  “如此多的想法大声说出来,我会叫它,”怀尔斯谈到特朗普的关税计划。“对于(关税)是否是一个好主意,存在巨大分歧。”

  怀尔斯还说,她在政府中有几次被“投票否决”。

  怀尔斯说,一个例子是特朗普1月6日赦免暴徒的第一天。

  《名利场》问她是否曾经问过总统,“等一下,你真的想在1月6日赦免所有1500名罪犯,还是我们应该更有选择性?”"

  “我正是这么做的,”怀尔斯回答道。“我说,‘我和那些偶然事件或者没有做任何暴力行为的人站在一起。我们当然知道每个人都做了什么,因为美国联邦调查局做了如此不可思议的工作"

  她说最终她“有点明白了”

  Susie Wiles seems to criticize Bondi, Vance and talks Trump in Vanity Fair

  In candid interviews with Vanity Fair, White House chief of staff Susie Wiles opened up about President Donald Trump and his Cabinet over the first year of Trump's second term.

  Wiles took part in 11 interviews that occurred in real time. Two parts of those interviews were published on Tuesday.

  In them, Wiles offered unreserved descriptions of top figures in the administration -- including Trump, who she said has an "alcoholic's personality."

  Wiles said Trump, who has repeatedly said he doesn't drink alcohol, said he "operates [with] a view that there’s nothing he can’t do. Nothing, zero, nothing."

  Trump, in an exclusive interview with the New York Post, said Wiles was "right" to tell Vanity Fair that he has an "alcoholic's personality."

  "I’ve said that many times about myself. I’m fortunate I’m not a drinker. If I did, I could very well, because I’ve said that -- what’s the word? Not possessive -- possessive and addictive type personality. Oh, I’ve said it many times, many times before," Trump told the New York Post.

  Asked if he had full confidence in Wiles, the president said, "Oh, she’s fantastic."

  In Vanity Fair, Wiles also called Vice President JD Vance a "conspiracy theorist for a decade" and White House Office of Management and Budget Director Russell Vought "a right-wing absolute zealot." Billionaire Elon Musk, she said, was an "odd duck, as I think geniuses are" and "avowed ketamine [user]."

  Wiles also weighed in on Attorney General Pam Bondi's handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files, Musk's slashing of federal government agencies and programs, the chaotic rollout of Trump's tariff plans, the administration's aims for Venezuela and more.

  Wiles, responding to Vanity Fair’s articles, said it is a "disingenuously framed hit piece on me and the finest President, White House staff, and Cabinet in history."

  "The truth is the Trump White House has already accomplished more in eleven months than any other President has accomplished in eight years and that is due to the unmatched leadership and vision of President Trump, for whom I have been honored to work for the better part of a decade,” Wiles wrote on X.

  "Significant context was disregarded and much of what I, and others, said about the team and the President was left out of the story. I assume, after reading it, that this was done to paint an overwhelmingly chaotic and negative narrative about the President and our team," Wiles added.

  ABC News has reached out toCondé Nast, Vanity Fair’s parent company, for comment on Wiles’ criticism.

  White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt defended Wiles, first on social media then in a gaggle with reporters outside the White House. She called the Vanity Fair reporting "disingenuous" and said there was a "bias of omission" that excluded context and comments from Wiles and others in the administration.

  "What I'll say about our chief of staff, as you've seen from not just myself, but also the entire Cabinet, in a groundswell of support from people on Capitol Hill who don't even work in this building, about how incredible Susie Wiles has been to President Trump. And he's been able to accomplish so much because of his leadership and his tenacity, but also because of chief of staff Wiles' leadership and her ability to effectuate his agenda,"Leavitt said.

  Bondi supported Wiles in a social media post on X. The attorney general did not respond to Wiles' comments on her handling of the Epstein files in the post.

  "My dear friend [Susie Wiles] fights every day to advance President Trump’s agenda – and she does so with grace, loyalty, and historic effectiveness. Any attempt to divide this administration will fail. Any attempt to undermine and downplay President Trump’s monumental achievements will fail. We are family.

  We are united," Bondi wrote.

  Vance, at an event Tuesday in Pennsylvania, said he hadn't read the Vanity Fair article but responded to Wiles' remark that he's been a "conspiracy theorist for the past decade." Wiles made the comment on Vance while discussing the Epstein files.

  "I haven't looked at the article. I, of course, have heard about it. But conspiracy theorist, sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist but I only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true," Vance told reporters.

  "And by the way, Susie and I have joked in private and in public about that for a long time," he added.

  Musk has not publicly responded to the Vanity Fair articles.

  Here are some notable exchanges from Wiles' interviews with Vanity Fair.

  Wiles says Bondi 'completely whiffed' on Epstein controversy

  Wiles said she underestimated the controversy surrounding the Epstein files. She discussed the moment back in February when Bondi handed conservative social media influencers a book of files related to Epstein but the binders contained old information.

  "I think she completely whiffed on appreciating that that was the very targeted group that cared about this,"Wiles said of Bondi.

  "First she gave them binders full of nothingness. And then she said that the witness list, or the client list, was on her desk. There is no client list, and it sure as hell wasn’t on her desk," Wiles said.

  Wiles said she read what she called "the Epstein file" and that Trump is in it.

  "[Trump] is in the file. And we know he’s in the file. And he’s not in the file doing anything awful," she said.

  Wiles also said that Trump "was on [Epstein’s] plane…he’s on the manifest.They were, you know, sort of young, single, whatever -- I know it’s a passé word but sort of young, single playboys together."

  Vanity Fair notes Trump has claimed, without evidence, that Bill Clinton visited Epstein’s infamous private island, Little St. James, "supposedly 28 times."

  "There is no evidence" those visits happened, Wiles told the magazine.

  Wiles on Trump’s Venezuela strategy, tariff rollout, pardons and more

  On President Trump's strategy on Venezuela, Wiles told Vanity Fair: "He wants to keep on blowing boats up until [Nicolas] Maduro cries uncle. And people way smarter than me on that say that he will."

  On the president's global tariff policy, a centerpiece of his economic agenda, Wilessaid she tried to have Trump wait to unveil them until there was more unity among his team but that he ultimately went ahead.

  "So much thinking out loud is what I would call it,”Wiles said of Trump’s tariff plan rollout."There was a huge disagreement over whether [tariffs were] a good idea."

  Wiles also said there's been a few times where she's been "outvoted" in the administration.

  One example, Wiles said, was Trump's Day 1 pardons of Jan. 6 rioters.

  Vanity Fair asked if she ever asked the president, "'Wait a minute, do you really want to pardon all 1,500 January 6 convicts, or should we be more selective?'"

  “I did exactly that," Wiles replied. “I said, 'I am on board with the people that were happenstancers or didn’t do anything violent. And we certainly know what everybody did because the FBI has done such an incredible job.'"

  She said eventually she "sort of got on board."

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